Apostasy - Act 1
Nov. 18th, 2009 11:24 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
cedar_grove
Title: Apostasy
Rating: NC-17 (adult readers)
Spoilers: Some spoilers for S1-4. S5 The Seed
Summary: Sheppard and the others relentlessly pursue the Hive responsible for the destruction of the Elder Hive and Teyla's death, believing Todd to be behind the attack. The Elder Queen and her Wraith struggle to rebuild after their crushing defeat. Meanwhile, Michael begins to undo the harm he suffered in Wraith captivity, and to formulate the next step in his plan for The Cause. Each must decide where lie their true loyalties, and for some, that means irrevocable change
Disclaimer: MGM own Stargate: Atlantis. This story is for entertainment purposes only and no revenue is being made from copyright material. No infrigement intended.
Act 1 now available.
Author's Note: Look guys, the rating says it all, but I'll spell it out. This contains explicit scenes. Many thanks
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif){kind=small}
gospikey for hard work in Beta.Previous Episodes:
Harm's Way (1), Chain of Command (2), Enmity (3), Mantle (4), In Truth... Freedom (5), Letting Go (6), Beyond the Third (7), Deliverance (8) and No Way Back (9) can be accessed here.
![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-19 04:36 pm (UTC)---
First of all, this: To Change a Heart, Understand It made me go all ‘oh, how cute’ when I first noticed it.
Now, let’s see if Michael is going to change Teyla, or if they’re going to at least attempt to try to meet each other a bit more toward the middle, rather than Michael just walking over her. Oh boy… Very much looking forward to this story. Yeah, yeah… It’s also *that* story. *grin*
“I will live the rest of my life as I choose. But I can’t do it alone."
See? Cute again… Because there’s the afterthought of ‘with Teyla’ in there. Oh dear lord. I’ve been anticipating this story a lot… *is hyper in a good way*
**
"Whoever did this will pay. I will make certain of it." Teyla - Missing
I can’t help but get the afterthought of: ‘In kind?’ over there… What? It’s true…
(Does that even imply what it implies in Dutch?)
**
Malcolm let out a soft hiss as his pain increased with the thought…
Aw, poor boy. I’m sure Eirian isn’t so cruel as to have let Isla blow up. She was after all about the first person to know that they would need to be careful, possibly evacuate.
Right? *glares* :P
Now, if everyone would just hit the eject button on all those Dart culling beams, perhaps she’ll get tossed out somewhere. :-)
That is, if she were as smart as McKay to have loaded herself into a Dart’s butt. (Not sure what to call that thing that downloads them.)
**
"She is here as our guest, not as our prisoner,"
At least for now.
If Michael hears that one, he’ll kill him… But perhaps the hybrids have only been instructed to protect her, like Lorne was doing, but they don’t know the real meaning behind it, how Michael really feels about her? Can’t appear like he’s a lovesick puppy, huh?
**
"All I want from you is the location of Todd's Hive ship… if you can't do that—"
And then what? Scrape the Daedalus together, and go after him? Emphasis on ‘scraping’? Poor guy, he really didn’t think this through. I wonder how long it’s going to be before they find out Teyla’s alive?
Apostasy is too soon, and so is Crossing Lines. Though, perhaps, there’s going to be rumours of Michael and his female/Queen around the galaxy, much like there were rumours of Michael being alive immediately after 5x01 (bites her tongue about the writers). So perhaps Crossing Lines is where they’ll get somewhat settled in, and start going out again. We’ll see.
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-19 05:02 pm (UTC)Silly me, and like I said somewhere else as a correction, it's not 3,400, but 4,300. Heh.
Doesn't matter. I had some nice icon stretching going on (I'm out of M/T ones I think), and that's always good. The posts are long enough, I think. Some probably don't require much of an answer. :P
I really, really, really should go reply to the old ones where necessary, and then reread some stuff that I read last night. Especially the end. *cough*
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-19 05:35 pm (UTC)Yeah, the tagline for Apostasy was... quite something. Came out of a dream in which just about the only thing I could remember was Michael repeating over and over again, "Understand me!" That doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be the one to change - it'll probably be a meet somewhere in the middle...
There's always a 'with Teyla' in there somewhere.
**
*raises eyebrow* Payment in kind?
**
Would I /ever/ be cruel to my characters? - Don't answer that.
**
Well... you know what happens to the hybid now, at least a little bit, but no. Michael can't allow himself to be seen as the lovesick puppy, that would be bad. above all, you must never show weakness... Besides, doing so would vastly endanger Teyla.
**
There will be... it'll be a while, before they find out about Teyla, but they will scrape the Daedalus together ready to head out very soon.
Perhaps there will be rumours... yes. *evil grin*
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-19 08:20 pm (UTC)It would be nice to see he can at least relax around Teyla, have a home in a home.
**
The payment thing. Well, she basically swore that she'd hurt the one to have taken her people, and it's not like she's going to make Michael pay, now is it?
**
Perhaps we shouldn't see it as you being cruel to them, but the Muse being cruel to you?
**
Yes, I do. Should better stop there. :-)
**
Poor Daedy. Can't even get a break.
Rumours are good. They might drive some people crazy-er. :D
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-20 09:17 am (UTC)The time for him relaxing around her is... a little way off yet, I'm afraid.
Ah, but she might. You don't know where her mind is right now.
Me, the muse, I dunno. I spent a long time yesterday plotting, in consultation with my 'technical consultant' and muse.
Nope... Daedalus is... a tool as far as Sheppard sees. He doesn't love it the way Caldwell does.
Rumours - who am I driving crazy now?
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-28 06:26 pm (UTC)Sheppard is going to be driven crazy, always Sheppard.
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 1
Date: 2009-11-28 11:08 pm (UTC)And yes, always Sheppard because he's such a good target. If he were on Star Trek he'd be wearing a red shirt.
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 2
Date: 2009-11-19 04:41 pm (UTC)They had taken nothing from him. He still commanded and as soon as they had been recalled he would command her entire fleet, not merely a single Hive.
So the Hive Second hasn’t killed you yet, and neither has your Queen, though if you had gone to her, check up on her, you’d have seen she was in no state to kill you, so you celebrate? And to think he thinks he will get her entire fleet… Full of himself, isn’t he?
Perhaps the Queen shouldn’t kill him herself, just yet, but cut off his thing in the meantime. I mean, it’s not like he really has a use for it, outside of his own pleasure, and any queens and commanders that could be sired by him might risk turning out to be morons… She knows it.
He felt the press of the mind against his gathering pleasure, the disruption and deliberate interference…
You can say whatever you like, but I think I luff the Second.
"I will speak with you," the Second said.
See? That just proves my point. Utter luff. Lol.
She could not deny her disappointment when the Second's only action was to reach out and propel her more quickly toward the door.
I can’t believe Hanna. Does the stupid bint really think that she’ll be able to play those two or what? They have thousands and thousands of years under their belts, and she’s just a simple, stupid girl. Yes, she does, I know. And… luff again.
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 2
Date: 2009-11-19 05:37 pm (UTC)You're not alone by the way in appreciating the Hive Second. I've had a few people express Malcolm-luff...
Hanna is a perfect match for her commander - basically as stupid as they come. But they say, Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. It's worth bearing in mind.
Rest assured though, both Hanna and her commander are heading for a fall... and from an.... interesting sourse.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 2
Date: 2009-11-19 08:24 pm (UTC)Bummer we can't make a Malcolm icon. :-)
Perfect match indeed. I remember her accusing Alicia to have been fucking her way up, and now look at the little twerp! At least the HS won't be stupid enough to fall for it. The shoving made that perfectly clear. I hope.
Woman = Queen? Oh, I do hope she gets all the details. And I wouldn't want to be the handmaidens around her, on that day.
I'll be looking out for a stranger source then. ^^
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 2
Date: 2009-11-20 09:19 am (UTC)Yeah, well... Hanna's days are numbered, and that's all I'll say about that.
Not so much strange - and possibly not even unexpected, but not the source that perhaps is /should/ be.
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-19 04:43 pm (UTC)Well, tell her you’re taking her toward her son, and watch her light up like a Christmas tree. :P
Though he’s probably aboard the Hive and she just doesn’t know it. I do like that she hasn’t immediately attacked him with questions of where he is. At least that part didn’t take place. But the whole conversation between them was so… urgh already, so we must be happy that that particular thing didn’t pop up again, as for example in the roundhouse.
Michael tells her that her presence wasn’t required when his people came for him, but can he really regret what happened after she did? He’s going to be healed soon, plus he has his ‘dead’ Queen Teyla with him. Not that he can say something alike: ‘Yippee, Teyla, you’re alive!’ to her. But still. He should put his foot in his mouth.
And he brings up the part where the Atlanteans have ‘no common decency’. He, of course, does? As he’s going to destroy a whole galaxy out of common decency. Lol. Good thing she doesn’t throw that back into his face. They’re already behaving like an old married couple, some could say. I wonder if Sheppard would see it that way, were he a fly on that wall… Urgh, it’s almost like she’s on trial for all of their shortcomings. o_0
I know you said to me that Michael is mad that she seems to delude herself into thinking that being with him is just the final stop after she already tried everything else, but I really don’t think this is the way to get her to admit it. They’ll get more mad at each other than anything else. Hmm, I do think that she left her people for their safety… Though perhaps it can be said they were probably not that much safer without her, and she did go find Michael/her son after she left… Still, not the way to do things. *slap*
"Where is your understanding? Where is your compassion?"
“Where is your need to jump m- er, coffee?”
(Because I could. And because the convo is serious, it’s after one o’clock and I’m still reading and typing away, and right around now everything sounds funny.)
But seriously, for a moment, now. How can he not expect her to give that reply she gives him when he said that. Something bad happened to him, yes, and he knows that she’s easy in sympathising, or is that empathising, but that doesn’t mean that she won’t see that he’s a person killing millions of people, and throw that in his face. Even if she likes him, what he’s doing is still not something she can stand by. And that’s definitely something they need to talk about before they go any further in their, er, furtherness. :P
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-19 05:44 pm (UTC)Michael said a lot of things out of hurt... and at a lot of times he was lashing out to try and hurt in return. His pain and frustration and desperation got the better of him, poor lamb, what more is there to say?
*kisses the slap better*
Michael and Teyla indeed have a lot of talking they need to do - yes. LOL
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-19 08:29 pm (UTC)Silly, silly boy. It's not going to make things easier. Perhaps, soon it'll be better. Ish.
Where have I heard that before? A slap getting kissed better? Hmm... Can't recall the location at this time.
It's a bit late for my line, lol.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-20 09:20 am (UTC)Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-28 06:28 pm (UTC)Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 3
Date: 2009-11-28 11:02 pm (UTC)Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-19 04:44 pm (UTC)Pigheads, whatcha gonna do with them? :P
"Enough. I… accede… to your point."
Hallelujah. :-D
**
He had made a promise, a vow upon his honour to one sacrificing her life, and now, he had not kept his word.
His Matron lived upon the sullied tatters of his nobility, and to have tainted Her with his failure only compounded the agony of his own loss.
Which one was ‘sacrificing her life’? And how is that Matriarch of his doing? Is she alive? :P
**
"If I had not agreed to come with you from the other Hive, would you still have given the order to fire?"
You said earlier in a mail to me that of course Michael waited for the beginning explosions on the Hive, to see if the job would be finished, but what did he accomplish, or hope to? I mean, does he think the Elder Queen is actually dead? All he did was stall her… And kill the Milla… :-(
If he denied her, was he not also rejecting that which he had craved for so long?
I did mention that, when I sent you my first mail after the first beta-read, that it was like 3 in the morning when I finished up reading, right? So not my fault I thought the end sentences were totally about the wrong cravings, yes? :P
**
Sheppard did look, and while he understood the colonel's feelings, he had considerations that he couldn't just drop.
At what point is Caldwell going to say that he’s in control of the Daedalus, not Sheppard, and that it’s his call when she flies out, not a subordinate’s? He should tell him that, if he wants to take a ship toward the Wraith, or wherever, that he just should take one of his own… PJ’s… :P
"Supposing you do catch up to him – what then?" Caldwell demanded.
"Then?" Sheppard growled, "I'm gonna blow the bastard out whatever sky he happens to be hanging over."
Again I stress the need for Caldwell to mention they have NOTHING to blow anyone out of the sky *with*… Asgard weapons are down.
Have they called the SGC requesting the presence of the Apollo? I mean, they know fixing the Daedalus is going to take a while, and that things might be heating up soon, so if they called in Apollo, they could have another fresh battleship in Atlantis within 3 weeks. Or was that 18 days? I don’t remember.
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-19 05:49 pm (UTC)**
Isla's mother was 'sacrificing her life' And the Wraith Matriarch (or Matron, if you prefer) - is doing just fine... though she's a bit hungry, and fancies a bit of 'reincarnated former ascended being' for lunch. *very evil grin*
**
Yes, actually, Michael expected to catch the Wraith Queen with her pants down, and take her out with the Hive.
The wrong cravings indeed. LOL
**
It's three weeks, and yes - the presence of the Apollo has been requested. Who knows, they might even send for the General Hammond eventually - they might need to... but that's a way down the line yet.
And of course Caldwell is not going to say that his ship can't do it... damage his pride that way?
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-19 08:43 pm (UTC)**
Oh, now that was evil! Does such a thing even exist? Lol.
**
I saw that by now, yes. Silly Michael. He should know that a Wraith isn't an easy thing to take out. They tried to do so with him many times already, and it didn't work. He should know that, while the HC is very incompetent, the HS is not.
There's nothing wrong with Michael having wrong cravings, lol.
**
So perhaps soon you'll be writing Ellis? Might be fun-ish.
Silly Sheppy is going insane. Mr NoOneIsLeftBehind has left someone behind! *gasp*
Where that psychologist when you need him? Urgh. Anyone but him.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-20 09:21 am (UTC)I'm trying to avoid writing good old Abe, mostly because I consider him to be almost as much as an ass as the HC.
Varnerin is around, never you fear.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-28 06:31 pm (UTC)That's what your next three or four parter is about? The Queen wanting him? :P
Though, how would she have found out about him? And what good would it do her, he doesn't know anything about it anymore.
LOL @ the comment on Ellis. I don't know what to make of him either. Well, I guess you could say he's different from what we know of the other ship captains so far, huh?
Great. Old Varny...
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2009-11-28 11:01 pm (UTC)She sees all and hears all...
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2010-01-03 07:40 pm (UTC)You never know with these old people...
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 4
Date: 2010-01-09 01:49 am (UTC)Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 5
Date: 2009-11-19 04:45 pm (UTC)Ya know, if it were up to me… He wouldn’t be wearing that anymore. Why is he still wearing that?
She had been magnificent then – strong and uncorrupted. Not so now… with so much passed between them and so much interference from others.
So, post-Atlantis, she’s corrupted? And let me guess… He thinks that by making her his Queen, after she’s fully chosen for his Plight, of course, she’ll be uncorrupted once more? That, when a woman with a character such as she had pre-Atlantis, uncorrupted, chooses to be with a man that will be the downfall of the whole Human race, her race, for as far as she knew, pre-Atlantis, she’ll still be her own pure self? *slap*
What was done to him by the people from Atlantis was wrong, yes, but does that mean he gets to destroy a whole race of other Humans because of that? Is that justified? It’s not even the same Human race he’s going after. Teyla knows it’s not justified. Why does he even expect her to chose him, when he knows she’s compassionate about others, too, concerned for their lives.
So sure of himself, isn’t he?
Oh, she’d better throw one big massive tantrum his way! Hmm, should she stop with just one? He won’t get it after just one… :P
"…that which I am… the future to which I would bring those of this galaxy… is not lightly taken from me… though they have tried. The evolution I would bring… is not… does not… will never belong to the Wraith!"
Well, ‘those of this galaxy’ would be dead, and the Wraith, or that one have/s already taken some of that evolution, I would think… And then there’s the Matriarch-business… The Hive Second…
Hmm, in Michael’s manipulations, perhaps both with himself as well as with Teyla, and his hybrids… Did he include something that will make them have longer life span than Humans? So something for longevity? After all, what’s the point in creating a new form of ‘evolution’ if you’re not even going to be alive to see much of it, because you only have 50 years more to go.
Also, that conversation with the Hive Second, about seeking Wraith who have a different understanding, and serving the Matriarch, what good will they do if the meeting isn’t in the next few years, but when Michael is old and grey…
Is that what the experiment with the Queen is about, perhaps? Longevity for Teyla?
**
”There is so much we don't know about the Wraith and your… contact with Todd was entirely different to that of someone being fed on."
I would think it funny if, presuming Todd was trying to get her pregnant (she did do that d&c) and was waiting for a sign of it finally happening, that on one occasion he asked her what that thingy in her arm was, and her saying it was implanted birth control…
Aka his efforts had been for nothing… Unless the Wraith enzyme can cancel those kind of things out.
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 5
Date: 2009-11-19 05:54 pm (UTC)Actually, the corruption referred to at this point is the corruption /he/ caused by feeding on her. But... yes, Teyla has changed - her attitudes and her beliefs have changed a lot since the Atlantians came... even since Michael first met her.
But let me remind you also that the title of this story is Apostasy
Michael /has/ to be sure of himself. If he ever doubts, then he's dead.
There will - I'm sure - be several massive tantrums. They might even come to blows at times.
'those of this galaxy' /might/ have survived... and I'm sure there is something that he's doing to perserve the longevity of selected Hybrids... As I said, he's not stupid, and as you said, he names himself as the 'evolution' of the galaxy.
Gah! I need gummies.
**
Wraith Enzyme can do all kinds of things - and there is in fact very much we don't know about the wraith. *grin*
Did you know that Kangaroos are fascinating creatures?
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 5
Date: 2009-11-19 09:08 pm (UTC)Oh, he sees that as 'corruption'? *shakes head again*
Hmm, the Dutch translation of Apostasy was 'afvalligheid', and the noun of that word would be 'afvallige', which in the tv-show was the translation of the word 'Renegade'. Lorenzo Lamas... *grin*
So, is the title Michael's, as he was called that, or Teyla's? :P
It sure is fun to be a Wraith, a moment or two of weakness, and you're dead.
I think I might already know of one time like that. :P
Gah. Don't remind me of the fact that I went to the candy store today, the one I buy my 1.2kg of candy from when I go on a holiday, you know, my survival kit, and I didn't bring any along because I didn't want those few kg that I lost to come back because of it... Boring. :(
Great, now I'm hungry again, and I just had a snack an hour ago. :(
**
Grin indeed. It means you can invent whatever you like. :-)
Kangaroos? No, mind, stop... I'm not going to say anything about a big tail... Geesh.
Eek! Keller's going to grow a pouch?
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 5
Date: 2009-11-20 09:25 am (UTC)Michael... Teyla... it could refer to both.
Yeah, that one time was a pretty big tantrum, wasn't it. *evil grin*
I went to the store and bought gummies.
**
Yes, indeed you can bend things to your will in an AU - and I have, and I will.
No, Keller is not going to grow a pouch. LOL
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 5
Date: 2009-11-28 06:33 pm (UTC)Uhu, definitely.
Gummies? Hope you liked them. I assume they're no more?
**
No pouch? Darn. I kind of already saw her hopping around the infirmary, or her own quarters, but I guess that's a no go then.
Spikey
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 6
Date: 2009-11-19 04:50 pm (UTC)Well, if Teyla’s apparent bad physical condition is any hint, she’d actually live by doing so… So perhaps, yes, do it.
And, Mikey… You know what kind of a response you eventually want to have out of her, and if this is another step toward it, you’ll do it. *shakes head*
Moving slowly, he slipped his arm beneath her knees and braced himself to rise, lifting her into his arms as she held him for… how long?
Yes, Eirian, how long was it? :P
A while, probably, even though he said his transformation would be swift, but painful. She was exhausted enough, even in her worry for him, to have fallen asleep… She would have tried to fight it in the beginning, even though it was a losing battle.
**
He did not turn from looking through the archway and into the crèche, where both Wraith young and their hybrid counterparts were educated in parallel with one another, each learning their own specific lore.
Hmm, did you not say that the Humans who were together with the Wraith, in earlier memories, like when the Matriarch was attacked, were all hybrids? Wasn’t there a planet where the climate was bad for common people, as they got too sick too quickly there? So they had hybrids who at times had to be replaced, or switched around, too? Malcolm once mentioned something about it being a waste if they lost some of the ones who were already beginning to show signs of sickness?
So that’s the planet where Isla was born? The one that was dying? The red one? That’s why those living conditions were so hard on Humans? Too hot? Radiation?
From Deliverance – Act 4:
A dark world, acrid, dry…a dying sun, expanding red heat, filling the horizon like the blood seeping from the young hybrid woman, barely sheltered by the hastily grown pavilion, away from the confines, the safety of the settlement. She was as surely dying as was the planet's second sun.
But not yet… first she would deliver. She must, or all of his suffering, his travails would have been for naught.
++ironic++
~my Queen?~
++that she should be born today++ ++today++ ++today++
++I remember… all those centuries ago… your sire attempted just the same as you. You. Came. To be. He… could not. Match me.++
I never asked, but why was it so ironic that that one was born today? The crème de la crème of his own hybrid-like manipulations, or what? Or just a latest attempt at strengthening them?
Seems to me that there are quite a few scientists out there who have dabbled in the creation of the perfect hybrid? Or just a hybrid stronger than the last one/model? Can we say that some form of hybrid has always been around for (almost) as long as the Wraith themselves? It’s just a matter of what level of hybrid-ness they are?
You know, I never mentioned this to you, but my silly tired mind did something funny, or for you probably not so funny, but since I’m used to my head doing stuff like that on a pretty regular basis, it’s funny for me:
The Elder Queen, Todd’s mother, mentioned to him that his father couldn’t match her decently, and that he suddenly was born… So, er, does that mean that Todd was meant to be a girl?
See, I told you it wasn’t going to be funny, but the question whether or not Todd was supposed to be a girl is very, very entertaining in the middle of the night. As in fits of giggling. You believe me, right?
Though now that I think of it, perhaps it more spells out that she punished Todd’s father for his experiments, (was she in Zenith at the time?), mating with him and finishing him off after that. Oooooooh, Todd was born out of anger, or disappointment? A feeling of betrayal? What a cute specimen to have come from such a union! *grin*
That, or he’s not a Wraith that was born from the Queen, or her pod, but from a hybrid woman just like he did with Alicia and ‘their daughter’ in the AU of the AU. Whose DNA was that girl from? Implanted from his other Queenie, or a successful experiment like he was potentially beginning with the one that shall not be named?
---
(cont.)
It's 4,300 per post, dang...
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 6
Date: 2009-11-19 06:04 pm (UTC)**
Okay, here come the hints at Wraith histories...
Not /all/ of the servants on the wraith homeworld were Hybrids. We will see more of this - and soon I think, as Malcolm pines away after his Isla...
Yes, the planet was bad for common people (still is to a degree), toxic atmosphere, caused by dying suns, but they process the atmosphere in certain places, to make it more habitable...
Yes, that's the planet where Isla was born, the one whose twin suns were dying... Too hot, then too cold then too hot them... dying suns are very interesting.
Deliverance act 4
It's ironic that 'she' should be born that day because the last time that Todd's queen saw another Wraith being born of a hybrid host, the other of the suns was dying, just as the one was dying in Todd's vision.
I think it was said somewhere, either by Todd or Michael that all Queen's seek the evolution of their species, either by carefully manipulated bloodlines, or by scientific interference... but some things... some things just happen all by themselves. *evil grin*
Todd's creation was probably intended to have created a female, yes - but Queens can be tricky blighters...
Todd's creation was /not/ a happy one - but that's a whole other story!
The whole Queen - hybrid - host thing is complicated though, and will come up. Look for the three parter (yet, three) Strangers. Home and Line of Fire
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 6
Date: 2009-11-19 10:16 pm (UTC)**
Poor Malcolm had better not pine away for much longer... He needs a hug, but once initiated, one should probably back away quickly...
Too cold? And are Wraith cold blooded? I mean, Isla couldn't have been warm snuggled up to Malcolm at that time. :P
Eirian: Wraith do not snuggle.
Me: Not where you can see they don't! :P
**
Hmm, okay. So hybrid giving birth to a Wraith, not Isla anymore? There goes that fantasy... It was a neat one. :-(
Then what was Todd, as well as his sire, attempting to do? I don't know if we know... o_0 Probably not.
'All by themselves' with a hand of Michael?
Hmm, about the interference thing. That what I wanted to check out is the hybrid things from Deliverance. You had a full Wraith in a pod, and a female in another one, right? Or probably more females, since that one was dying? Those females, were they all hybrids? Or common Humans, perhaps brought in from another planet, long ago, and shoved in the pods, and the results of the breeding was what was running around on the planet? The more Wraith boy... Was he the result of two hybrids breeding, then?
Gah, I really don't remember that much about it. If I'm not mistaken, Todd just went in to pretty much verify his thoughts, and did, and Keller never got the explanation for it. Hmm. So, either the female in the pod was perhaps a hybrid, and a Wraith came out of them, or two hybrids had 'successfully' bred more towards a Wraith on their own.
Silly Todd, running away when we still need our answers.
And about his creation, are we going to find out about that? Probably in bits and pieces again, grrr...
So your Daniel two-parter became a three-parter? Danny still in? Oh, and any M/T in there that you can foresee? I mean, which eps? For my listy. :D
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 6
Date: 2009-11-20 09:31 am (UTC)No, Wraith don't exactly snuggle...
So sorry to burst your bubble about Isla.
Todd and his Sire were trying to... manipulate the Wraith, but not necessarily the Evolution of the Wraith.
No, sometimes genuinely /all by themselves/ though just now, Michael /is/ doing a lot of stuff....
The females in the pods looked human, so far as Todd and Keller were able to tell. The more Wraith boy... could have been the result of selective breeding, yes, or he could have been one of those things that happened all by itself
Well... Todd didn't exactly run away.
Bits and pieces is the way to go. If I gave it to you all at once it wouldn't fit in with the VS.
Yep, the Daniel two parter became three. Danny is still in it, and yes, I do believe I foresee an appearence by Michael and Teyla. Strangers, Home and Line of Fire.
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-19 04:53 pm (UTC)Okay, the ‘Matron’ and the ‘Matriarch’ are both the same person, right? The mother of the four Elder Queens? Or is it in this case an Elder Queen?
I’m just asking, because if Isla was in fact the girl that was being born when Todd’s Elder Queen and Todd were standing above her on the dying planet, then why was baby Isla found by the Hive Second, and not taken by Todd? Did Todd fight his Queen after that other scene, or where they chased away from the labouring hybrid girl because of the fights that where going on?
Was Todd’s Elder Queen fighting together with her Matriarch mother against a common enemy, then? Or perhaps they were even fighting each other? The building of new ships and parting of the ways were mentioned, so… Interesting to learn that Malcolm, Isla and Todd are that old. Is Michael, too, then? He hasn’t been mentioned around that era yet. Though he knows who the Matriarch is. I’m going to guess it’s more than them leaving to fight the Ancients, but there’s actually way more history there than just that. Perhaps tens of thousands of years more. Have fun filling that up. ^^
The planet where Isla turned up, with the Attendants, was that still the dying planet?
"It was my mother's name. I heard it in my head."
Who was the one who spoke it in her head? Her mother, and it was an old memory? Or Todd’s EQ? The Matriarch? Malcolm himself to someone? I’m probably making too much out of this again. It’s just that it sounded odd to me.
"How is she called?" he asked.
"Her name is Isla," the Attendant answered.
{so… you heard} {you heard} {you heard}
Comes from a bit before here. Is he having a mental conversation that she’s picking up? Did she already hear about his task and with the calling him ‘my Lord’ showed her interest in joining him? Maybe too much too, for a 4 year old.
A smile slowly formed on her face; in her eyes; and it warmed him to see. It reminded him of the starlight reflected in the pool at the mound that had been the place of her birth.
Awwwwwwwww… *Bites her tongue to keep herself from saying more about Malcolm/Isla*
It was a delay he could ill afford, but the child's mother had been among few that day who had kept to her duties and for that, this little one would be saved.
He tried to harden his heart; to tell himself that this would be reason enough…
*Repeats herself* Awwwwwwwww… She’s already irresistible to him. *grin*
"Where is reason now?" he asked the crackling flames. "Or has all come to madness in this peak, untended?"
{damn you!} {damn you!} {damn you!}
Ouch, he misses his little partner in crime, or bouncing partner, whatever you wanna call that. His confidante, yes, that’s better.
Who’s he damning? That had better not arrive with someone in particular. Unless she picks it up. He should take a Dart out and check out nearby planets. Or dial them up or something.
‘This peak, untended’ is what, exactly? It’s almost like he’s Shakespearing.
---
(cont.)
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-19 06:11 pm (UTC)Isla has nothing to do with Todd. That was another person (actually a full Wraith) entirely.
Wait to see more of the Todd - Queen flashback
At one point, the Wraith were all fighting a common enemy (for a first time). It's only Malcolm that's that old. Then Isla a tad younger. Michael and Todd are both of the Elder line, among the first few that were created from the Elder Queens, so yeah, they're old, but not quite /that/ old.
But there /is/ a lot of Wraith history - and we will get to see some of it through Malcolm, Todd and Michael.
Malcolm spoke Isla's name to her, after... well you'll see. Soon.
Isla is hearing Malcolm speaking to her mentally in that scene, yes. And yes, Malcolm /does/ care about Isla, for a lot of reasons and on a lot of levels.
So yeah, he misses her, and he's Damning... a lot of people too.
'This peak untended' = The Elder Queen's Zenith.
Shakespearing is deliberate, a reminder of Malcolm' age.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-19 10:36 pm (UTC)Wraith history is cool. But confusing, though. All those dying suns... Perhaps we should number them.
Ah, one of my missing scenes, perhaps? Good. I liked that flashback.
'Sermhuni', was it? It's a big mission to have to go through alone. We can be happy he picked himself a good companion.
Oh, that one's Zenith, of course... Her only wanting Michael, the Zenith being stretched so everyone was feeling the effects, it still not being restored after so many months, and now all the panic, loss, because of her stalling it, and an incapable HC. Great. Definitely not the price he wanted to pay for that *cough*.
Well, as long as he doesn't go all 'fish in the pond' on us...
See ya.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-20 09:35 am (UTC)The Wraith planet had 2 suns. They did not die at the same rate... and of course a dying sun creates a new one... (in a loose, very innacurate sense)
Sermhuni isn't so much a name as a... title-ish, coupled with an endearment... hard to describe the class of word actually.
No, the Queen really messed up this time...
Don't worry - Malcolm might be a little worked up right now, but he's not crazy.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-20 09:55 am (UTC)So, there's perhaps a 3rd and 4th one out there? Just checking for if more people are giving hybrid births under it. :-D
Yes, I know. But that wasn't the price he wanted to pay for what the Queen was up to, and what the HC was too weak to fight against. Or how to say it.. Stupid stalled Zenith.
Well, will she even come to the conclusion that her current condition is in part caused, or perhaps almost completely, by the Zenith that she hasn't given into yet? After she's better, of course, now she won't realise.
Good. Malcolm can't go crazy. We need at least one sane one on that boat. Or on the new boat.
G'morning, btw.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 7
Date: 2009-11-20 10:48 am (UTC)Suns? There aren't any hybrids giving birth just yet, no.
No too true. He's not impressed with the EQ right now, that's for sure. After she's all better... then perhaps the Pegasus Galazy should be scared - very scared.
New boat, I'm sure.. can't see a Queen like that not having a nice big boat to play around in.
Good morning to you as well.
Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-19 04:55 pm (UTC)Michael: biggest party-pooper ever. I mean, we WANT to hear him growl, already. But, I guess, that it’ll be worth all the teasing, or is that foreplay, when he finally does allow her to touch him. Guh. (I think that’s short for ‘gutter’.)
His fingers closed around her upper arm to steady her, and in the next moment slipped down along her arm to guide her hand to rest against his shoulder. She shivered slightly when he released her wrist and circled her with his arm, his fingers splayed against her back, warm and strong.
C-c-… can I switch places with Teyla, please? Pretty please? If that was just his arm around her, then I don’t want to know what the rest is going to be like from this location… Must go there… Guh.
Yup, that’s short for gutter alright.
"There is… a need in both of us that has remained unfulfilled for too long…" he answered slowly.
*nods like a woman possessed*
"I do not understand," she whispered nervously.
-I think you do- -you do- -you do- -you do-
Me: *gulp*
I was of course thinking of completely the wrong thing, at 3 am, but heh. Soon.
Michael breathed out a long, slow hiss and the harshness faded from his gaze.
Oh, is that one of those sentences that’s going to be repeated a lot, too? Kind of like the one between Michael and Sheppard? How does it feel, Colonel Sheppard,… ;-)
And oh, wow, she gets a preview of his rapturous face, not fair…
his mind within hers an echo of the rhapsody… the Gift.
Can we assume that our Teyla, or his Teyla, is as old/young as she was before? What age would you say she was again, and perhaps that changed now? Just trying to visualise.
---
There. That’s it. I think. Have I forgotten anything? I hope not. o_0
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-19 06:14 pm (UTC)Can you switch places with Teyla.. um... sure, but I think there's a line.
Yeah, you thinking the wrong thing is quite funny...
Which sentence do you mean, that's you think is going to be repeated?
Yes, we can assume that Teyla is as young looking as ever... her age? Um... yeah. Thirty-something, perhaps?
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-19 10:23 pm (UTC)Yup, I think there's a line too, and it's starting behind me. :K
I get tired at 3am, okay? ;-)
Michael breathed out a long, slow hiss and the harshness faded from his gaze.
That one can get repeated, in various different ways. His eyes softening. :D
Thirty-something, like himself. That's how I picture her too. Originally she had to be 20-25 or something. Pre-casting RL. o_0
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-20 09:37 am (UTC)Ahem... I don't think that's where the line starts at all.
Yes, I get tired at 3am too...
Ah, right I see. No, it won't be repeated in the same way as the line that Sheppard recalls often.
Yeah, but I've always seen Teyla as hovering around thirty... just before - just after.
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-28 07:49 pm (UTC)Ahem... Oh, I think it does. :P
Good. That means it's not just me. And what were you doing posting Apostasy Act 2 at 7:28 or something in the morning? Tsk tsk tsk. I was still happily not-snoring. :D
Lol, variations of it I'm sure are going to resurface during the fic, no?
Hmm, yes. Teyla around 30. I agree.
Spikey
Re: Apostasy: Act 1 - Review part 8
Date: 2009-11-28 10:59 pm (UTC)Nope, behind me missy.
Um, I was up all night. Spent half of it coding so I wanted it posted, that's why 7:28am.